Trojan Horse

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Trojan Horse
Topic Started: Aug 21 2007, 05:00 PM (431 Views)
Fortune_Wonder	Aug 21 2007, 05:00 PM Post #1
Emmy Clarke Worshiper Posts: 1,169 Group: Members Member #6 Joined: January 26, 2007	Strange...I have absolutely no idea how I got it, as I'm not one to visit sites that I shouldn't be visiting, but it seems that my computer - with Windows Vista - was just infected with the Trojan Horse virus, of all viruses. "Trojan horse General6 UMS" and "UMU," more specifically, according to AVG, which warned me immediately after I turned on my PC. I know that this is one of those rather serious and difficult viruses to deal with. I recall the basement computer being infected with it before and I think we reformatted the drive, but there's gotta be a simpler (yet free) way to do it without doing so, isn't there? So, uh, yeah. Any help you can give me would, needless to say, greatly be appreciated, lol.
	[size=4]Emmy Clarke: A True Sight for Sore Eyes.[/size] She could make a blind man see, a dumb man talk, and a deaf man hear!


Speedy	Aug 22 2007, 12:31 AM Post #2
Google Whore Posts: 2,767 Group: Admin Member #8 Joined: January 27, 2007	I'll look into it tonight before I go to bed.
	Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, "Where have I gone wrong?"/ Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one night." - Charles M. Schulz Software Reviews


Fortune_Wonder	Aug 22 2007, 12:35 AM Post #3
Emmy Clarke Worshiper Posts: 1,169 Group: Members Member #6 Joined: January 26, 2007	No worries; SF is on the case over at BC2, lol. Thanks, though.
	[size=4]Emmy Clarke: A True Sight for Sore Eyes.[/size] She could make a blind man see, a dumb man talk, and a deaf man hear!


Speedy	Aug 22 2007, 12:54 AM Post #4
Google Whore Posts: 2,767 Group: Admin Member #8 Joined: January 27, 2007	Interesting, I can't seem to find it anywhere online. Anyways, I would boot into safe mode and run the AVG antivirus scan. I'd also suggest running A Squared Trojan Scanner at the same time. http://www.emsisoft.com/en/software/free/ I'll continue to take a look into it, but perhaps we should contact Windsor about this, as it might be a false positive.
	Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, "Where have I gone wrong?"/ Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one night." - Charles M. Schulz Software Reviews


Speedy	Aug 22 2007, 12:54 AM Post #5
Google Whore Posts: 2,767 Group: Admin Member #8 Joined: January 27, 2007	Fortune_Wonder Aug 21 2007, 10:35 PM No worries; SF is on the case over at BC2, lol. Thanks, though. Whee for not being quick enough on the refresh.
	Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, "Where have I gone wrong?"/ Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one night." - Charles M. Schulz Software Reviews


wali	Aug 22 2007, 08:13 PM Post #6
Hooters Expert Posts: 938 Group: Members Member #2 Joined: January 26, 2007	You need to stop visiting dubious sites, FW...Bahahahahahaha!!! LOL! j/k



Dark Knight	Aug 24 2007, 05:41 PM Post #7
Admin Posts: 4,395 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: January 24, 2007	Speedy Aug 22 2007, 01:54 AM Fortune_Wonder Aug 21 2007, 10:35 PM No worries; SF is on the case over at BC2, lol. Thanks, though. Whee for not being quick enough on the refresh. See what happens when I send a message to you in every way possible. He ditches us and goes somewhere else LOL. I know nothing about viruses and a little about other computer problems. Maybe I'll pick something up in one of the classes I'm in. Not sure.
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Speedy	Aug 25 2007, 02:44 PM Post #8
Google Whore Posts: 2,767 Group: Admin Member #8 Joined: January 27, 2007	I glanced over that thread, it seemed that Windsor couldn't find anything either.
	Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, "Where have I gone wrong?"/ Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one night." - Charles M. Schulz Software Reviews


Windsor	Oct 5 2007, 01:24 AM Post #9
Malware Hunter Posts: 27 Group: Members Member #12 Joined: January 29, 2007	Speedy Aug 22 2007, 01:54 AM Interesting, I can't seem to find it anywhere online. Anyways, I would boot into safe mode and run the AVG antivirus scan. I'd also suggest running A Squared Trojan Scanner at the same time. http://www.emsisoft.com/en/software/free/ I'll continue to take a look into it, but perhaps we should contact Windsor about this, as it might be a false positive. I need to stop in here more often. Speedy, I no longer recommend A-Squared (for about a year and a half now) and you shouldn't either. That product stopped being effective long ago and is really bad with excessive false positives, some of which are system crippling. If you visit their forums you will see many complaints about FPs and systems that no longer function after running their product. I had it quarantine explorer.exe on me during my last test of the product back in 11/06. The file was not set to quarantine nor was it infected. If I was the average Joe, I would have been reformatting after that. Fortunately I'm not and was able to save the machine, but that was the last time I ever allowed A-Squared to quarantine/delete anything. It used to be a great product, but those days are long over. In A-Squared's defense, they are quick to correct any FPs that are reported, but how many systems get damaged before they do??? FP's happen to every vendor, but the amount of times it happens to A-Squared is ridiculous and inexcusable. Windsor



Speedy	Oct 5 2007, 07:52 PM Post #10
Google Whore Posts: 2,767 Group: Admin Member #8 Joined: January 27, 2007	Thanks for the heads up. I'll remove that one from my free software list. I won't promote products that are ineffective.
	Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, "Where have I gone wrong?"/ Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one night." - Charles M. Schulz Software Reviews


Windsor	Oct 5 2007, 10:01 PM Post #11
Malware Hunter Posts: 27 Group: Members Member #12 Joined: January 29, 2007	SUPERAntiSpyware and AVG Anti-Spyware are the only 2 products you want to be promoting. The are the most effective free products out there. The most effective paid program could be said for SUPERAntiSpyware as well. Both are lightweight unlike other popular products like CounterSpy, Spyware Doctor and SpySweeper. All three of them are excellent products as far as detection/removal, but they are extremely heavy and some are buggy too. (CS and SS) For reference... FYI, the SAS link contains my affiliate ID. SUPERAntiSpyware http://www.superantispyware.com/?rid=3123 AVG Anti-Spyware http://free.grisoft.com/doc/20/us/frt/0 Windsor



Speedy	Oct 5 2007, 10:18 PM Post #12
Google Whore Posts: 2,767 Group: Admin Member #8 Joined: January 27, 2007	Any word on the effectiveness of Ad-Aware and Spy Bot? I don't use either of them much anymore, but then again I'm also not on Windows much anymore.
	Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, "Where have I gone wrong?"/ Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one night." - Charles M. Schulz Software Reviews


Windsor	Oct 11 2007, 06:12 AM Post #13
Malware Hunter Posts: 27 Group: Members Member #12 Joined: January 29, 2007	They are both still reputable programs, but far less effective against modern day malware than days gone by. I'd have to say Spybot S&D is the more effective of the two. It's hijack protection, tools and immunization feature add to it's usefulness. I certainly wouldn't call either program worthless, just not as effective as they once were. Windsor



burntcarlos	Apr 16 2008, 06:28 PM Post #14
Junior Poster Posts: 34 Group: Members Member #39 Joined: March 23, 2008	From the way it was explained to me, a trojan is a spy ware and not a virus, but most anti viruses do detect it but can't get rid of them. I seem to have good results with ewido online scanner.



Speedy	May 2 2008, 05:11 PM Post #15
Google Whore Posts: 2,767 Group: Admin Member #8 Joined: January 27, 2007	You are sort of correct burncarlos: From Wikipedia: A Trojan horse, or simply trojan, is a piece of software which appears to perform a certain action but in fact performs another such as a computer virus. Contrary to popular belief, this action, usually encoded in a hidden payload, may or may not be actually malicious, but Trojan horses are notorious today for their use in the installation of backdoor programs. Simply put, a Trojan horse is not a computer virus. Unlike such malware, it does not propagate by self-replication but relies heavily on the exploitation of an end-user (see Social engineering). It is instead a categorical attribute which can encompass many different forms of codes. Therefore, a computer worm or virus may be a Trojan horse.
	Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, "Where have I gone wrong?"/ Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one night." - Charles M. Schulz Software Reviews


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